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Rejecting the Concept of Miracles    Comments (37)
June 13, 2010 by Shruti B Prakash

Rejecting the Concept of Miracles

June 13, 2010 By Shruti Bhushan Prakash

Have you ever used the word “miracle” in everyday conversation?

For example “it was a miracle, the other car stopped in time, otherwise there would have been a collision”. If you think for a moment, you will find many places where the word “miracle” is used in today’s English language usage.

This casual use of the word “miracle” is not the focus of this Blog Entry – its alternative use is in question – involving a divine intervention.

Definition: mir·a·cle

 

1. An event that appears inexplicable by the laws of nature and so is held to be supernatural in origin or an act of God:

A fundamental education in Vedic Theology would present the definitive position – Vedic Theology does not support the idea of Miracles. In fact, it rejects it totally.

The intent of this Blog Entry is to present a picture of how indelible the idea is miracles is embedded in popular religions – Judeo/Christian/Islamic/Hindu groups.

The following is excerpted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle#Supernatural_acts. Selected portions have been excerpted.

Religious Texts:

 

Hebrew Bible

Descriptions of miracles  appear in the Tanakh. Examples include prophets, such as Elijah who performed miracles like the raising of a widow's dead son (1 Kings 17:17–24) and Elisha whose miracles include multiplying the poor widow's jar of oil (2 Kings 4:1-7) and restoring to life the son of the woman of Shunem (2 Kings 4:18-37).

New Testament

Jesus explains in the New Testament that miracles are performed by faith in God. "If you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'move from here to there' and it will move." (Gospel of Matthew 17:20). After Jesus returned to heaven, the book of Acts records the disciples of Jesus praying to God to grant that miracles be done in his name, for the purpose of convincing onlookers that he is alive. (Acts 4:29-31).

Qur'an

Miracle in the Qur'an can be defined as a supernatural intervention in the life of human beings.[7] According to this definition, Miracles are present "in a threefold sense: in sacred history, in connection with Muhammad himself and in relation to revelation."[7]

 

Religious Groups:

Claims of miracles in Christianity

There have been numerous claims of miracles in Christianity. This includes the Roman Catholic Church, Christian Science, Protestant, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Evangelical, Pentecostal, Charismatic and others. The types of miracles that are claimed to occur by these denominations are faith healings and casting out demons.

Hinduism

The Hindu milk miracle was a phenomenon considered by many Hindus as a miracle that occurred on September 21, 1995.

Islam

Sufi biographical literature records claims of miraculous accounts of men and women. The miraculous prowess of the Sufi holy men includes firasa(clairvoyance), the ability to disappear from sight, to become completely invisible and practice buruz(exteriorization). The holy men reportedly tame wild beasts and traverse short distances in a very short time span. They could also produce food and rain in seasons of drought, heal the sick and help barren women become pregnant.[20][21]

Rejection of the Idea of Miracle

Thomas Paine, one of the Founding Fathers of the American Revolution, wrote “All the tales of miracles, with which the Old and New Testament are filled, are fit only for impostors to preach and fools to believe”.[31]

Robert Ingersoll wrote, "Not 20 people were convinced by the reported miracles of Christ, and yet people of the nineteenth century were coolly asked to be convinced on hearsay by miracles which those who are supposed to have seen them refused to credit."[35]

John Adams, second President of the United States, wrote, "The question before the human race is, whether the God of nature shall govern the world by his own laws, or whether priests and kings shall rule it by fictitious miracles?"[37]

American Revolutionary War patriot and hero Ethan Allen wrote "In those parts of the world where learning and science have prevailed, miracles have ceased; but in those parts of it as are barbarous and ignorant, miracles are still in vogue."[39]

Richard Dawkins Foundation - Medical 'Miracles' Not Supported by Evidence

http://richarddawkins.net/articles/876-medical-39-miracles-39-not-supported-by-evidence

Swami Dayananda – Satyaarth Prakash Chapter 8 – 8:13 – There cannot be an effect without a cause.

 

Summary:

Religious Miracle and cause/effect are mutually exclusive ideas. In spite of the demonstrated advances the World has made in science and technology, the grasp of superstitious beliefs such as Miracles still holds the human mind tightly – in casual usage and in time of human fear and impending disaster. Vedic Theology has consistently rejected the idea of miracles. Science has no place for it. Yet, we see the power of popular religion (Hinduism included) to further/proliferate the idea of Miracles.

As Vedic people, educated in Vedic Theology - in our Mandirs and everyday life, we must stay vigilant to ward off the persistent penetration of superstitious belief systems such as miracles in our congregation, our youths , our leaders, and our family.

I encourage a discussion on this subject – please post a reply below.

Addendum – June 21, 2010

I thank all the participants for a continuing discussion on this subject – particularly Anon who has made a significant contribution to the caliber of the discussions. Again, thanks to all participants for your continuing contribution to this conversation.

Among the responses in support of the occurrence of Miracles, the following point is presumed:

The basic premise for Miracles is that God will act at will to cause things to happen - both positive and negative to Humans. When these things cannot be explained by known Science (laws of nature, cause/effect), this is called a supernatural act and may be classified as a Miracle. The basic issue is this: Does God intervene? Is there such a thing as Divine Intervention? If yes, then a logical conclusion is that Miracles will occur based on God intervening – and such intervention will surely baffle the scientific laws of cause/effect.

The simple Vedic perspective is that God does no such thing. It is not in His nature to execute such actions.

The Laws of Nature are God’s creation and as such as perfect.  The billions and billions ( an billions) of cause/effect transactions occurring each nano-second in this universe and other supposedly parallel multi-verses are exactly following God’s (Scientific) Laws of Nature.

The reality of the World and all things known/unknown to Man (i.e. the cumulative effects of such causes/effect transactions) are exactly as per the schema designed by God. To think otherwise, would mean that there was a “side-effect, a defect of sorts” that needed “fixing” – the fix of course is the Miracle – the supernatural act of God to “engineer” an outcome that is more pleasing to Him – a ridiculous position since HIS creation of the perfect laws of nature is somehow out-putting undesirable/imperfect/un-pleasing effects/side effects requiring his fine-tuning/intervention.

Recall an earlier blog that dealt with this line of thinking – a long read (with excellent contribution from Munna) http://www.aryasamajtoday.com/BlogContent.aspx?BID=15

Excerpt:

If God were to intervene, it would mean that the effects of the Laws of Nature (cause/effect) would somehow yield "an insufficient” effect necessitating some sort of "adjustment" from God. This would suggest that Cause 0 (God) created effects that were somehow imperfect requiring adjustment of effects. This is similar to Cause 0 not getting it right the first time because Intervention is needed to make it "right".

Namaste

Shruti Bhushan Prakash

Jun 21, 2010

 

 

Shruti Bhushan Prakash is a member of the Arya Samaj Community. He is the author of this Blog entry and his views do not necessarily represent the views of MDG NA Inc.

Comments
 
Satchi Says :
July 11, 2010
I think that i will now call it devine intervention rather than my usually saying of a miracle
That makes it clear to me and not so confusing becausing i cannot understand any of what your people are talking about. i now what happens to me .and i used to say that is a miracle but now i have to change it all about cheers
Anon Says :
June 28, 2010

Admin,

I am tired of this back and forth (I suspect most people are) and I not inclined to continue this conversation since it is becoming a pointless elliptical one. Contrary to Munna’s assertion, I do not have an axe to grind nor an affiliation to defend or promote. I want to be in the company of those who search for truth and I tend to run away from those who declare that they have found it. That’s all.

You have put your finger on the pulse of the contention with your response. But something is not clicking for me. Please excuse my belaboring the issue; restated, your and ( Arya Samaj) position is this:

1. God is perfect; He is the cause of all causes
( Cause 0).
2. He creates perfect Laws (karma, free will etc) which “execute consistently, automatically, without exception and without change.”
3. His involvement is limited to an administrative function – similar to a systems administrator.

Please excuse my sluggish mind but I am not getting the third point. Why should God have a “hands-on” (intervene) in the execution of these autonomous laws. Are you saying that laws of nature need a regulating mechanism in the form of God? It is as if you are saying that gravity will cease to exist if God does not “ regulate” it and and 2 atoms of H will not combine with 1 atom of O. Why do these laws need a divine input? What am I missing? If that is so then you ratify Munna’s case – God intervenes without breaking any law.

Why should there be a requirement to "maintain sustained presence of cause 0? Doesn’t requirement impose a limitation? But the laws are perfect! I really don't get it but I would like to know.

Please explain this if you have the time and I will shut up. Thanks.
Reply from: Admin
July 10, 2010
Anon- the back and forth is going on. This is the intent of this web space and yes, we need to balance the degree and level of interaction. No worries.

I have been quite busy travelling this few months, hence the reason for the delayed response

The requirement for a sustained presence of cause 0 - Response:

Take the example as an analogy:

Let's assume there is "manufacturing plant" designed and built to be fully automated. In this plant is a wondrous series of operations fully automatic - one cause creating one or more effects, these effects acting as causes for consequent effects - a beautiful spectacle of automation and chain reaction of cause and effects.

The initiation of this wondrous operation of the plant is a "presence of electricity"

Analogy:
(a) cause 0 = electricity.
(b) The operations of the plant = this universe
(c) the cause/effect transactions of the plant = laws of nature.

Without cause 0 = electricity, item (b) above will stop.

The hand of "cause 0" is required for item (b) to continue. Without cause 0 ( electricity/God), the plant/universe will cease to exist as we know it.

Again, I thank you for your continued participation in this conversation. This debate is healthy.
Munna Says :
June 27, 2010
Anon,

The questions you posed are indeed perplexing and the honest answer is I do not know. I am not sure if the answer will ever be known or if it is knowable. The issue is reduced to philosophical speculations that attempt to satisfy intellectual curiosity. Before I try to answer the questions, let me make a few observtions:
 Your posts indicate a deliberate or unconscious aversion to Arya Samaj which does not help your case, on the contrary it injects a bias that detracts from the points you espouse.

 The idea that God does not intervene in the universe is not an Arya Samajist’s position per se. It is, in fact, the position of Deists who became prominent in the 17th and 18th century during the Renaissance – long before Swami Dayananda. The rise and fall of deism is well documented in scholarly journals (JSTOR, EBSCO ETC).

Now, in answering the objections, these ideas that come to mind:

• Man understanding and appreciation is a function of his finite knowledge. Some doubts are apparent - perception not fact - and would evaporate if and only if we had the view of the whole picture. Remember how Arjuna doubts were erased when he was granted a cosmic overview? Arjuna had very good reasons for not fighting, he offered a very logical and coherent argument to that effect – all evaporated when he gained a better vantage point facilitated by Lord Krishna.

• I reject the premise that intervention limits God. If God pervades everything why should we limit Him to the principles of science? Think about the opposite question; why would God create a universe and NOT want to participate in it – I do not understand what can prevent Him to do as He pleases?

• Suppose that the saved child grows up to be another Ghandhi and another child crushed by the train would have grown to be another Hitler, where is the inconsistency and impartiality?

Anon Says :
June 26, 2010
Response to Munna,

I understand your point but you play right into the hands of the Arya Samajists; their rebuttal is: Why does Got not intervene to stop the murderous intent of tyrants, or the Holocaust, or an earthquake etc? The second objection to your proposal is that you cannot equate familial relations with God’s governance of the universe.

Hence, their reason is that God does NOT intervene. They propose that after God created the universe and put laws in motion He has hands-off approach in relation to the universe.


Reply from: Admin
June 27, 2010
Anon... You have appropriately responded with one item of clarity re: hands-off approach.

It is not that God has a hands-off approach in relation to the Universe.

God has created the cause (cause 0) to allow the Laws of Karma, Criteria for Re-birth, Cause/Effect and Man's Free Will to execute consistently, automatically, without exception and without change.

God's continuing “hands-on” involvement (to use your term) is to maintain the requirement of Cause 0. For without the pervasive presence of Cause 0, the drama of the World (i.e. complex interaction of Laws of Karma, Universal Cause/Effect, Criteria for Rebirth and Man's Free Will) will cease to evolve, change and exist.

So: In this model, the Hands of God are indeed to provide ongoing "sustained" presence of Cause 0.
Namaste
Shruti Prakash
Email: shrutiprakash@aryasamajtoday.com
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