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1. vedas in english translation with international standards.
2. satyarth prakash in all indian regional languages.
3. website on swami dayanand and aryasamaj of international level for beginner as well as experts.
4. vedic literature of aryasamaj easily available from reputed book shops to ordinary one at bus stand, railways station.
5. debating clubs in colleges/ universities on  vedic philosophy
6 articles of scholars in reputed dailies in hindi, english as well as regional languages.
7. arya principles propagation  in traditional  fairs specially in rural india where thousands of people visits . its best place to teach people who are not familier about vedic philosophy.
8.  one internatonal level magzine on vedas in hindi and english.
9. research centres on vedas.
10. vedic reference library with all books of aryasamaj under one roof with online catalogue.
11. one gurukul of aryasamaj where from age 8 studies starts from panini grammer, mahabhashy, darshans to vedas with free education
12. ved bhashya by swami dayanand in syllabus of universities.
 
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Among All the World’s Religious Books/Scriptures– Why did Swami Dayananda declare that ONLY the Vedas is Divine Revelation? What was his logical basis for such a declaration?    Comments (13)
November 18, 2009 by Shruti Bhushan Prakash

Among All the World’s Religious Books/Scriptures– Why did Swami Dayananda declare that ONLY the Vedas is Divine Revelation? What was his logical basis for such a declaration?

November 18, 2009, By Shruti Bhushan Prakash

Background:

Please review the simple timeline below

 

  

 Period 1860 – 1863 – Authoritative Books VS Spurious Books

During this period, Swami Dayananda learned largely Sanskrit grammar under the tutelage of Swami Virjanand.

At this time, neither Swami Virjanand nor the pupil Dayananda had clear and definitive thoughts on the Vedas and Divine Revelation. 

The student Dayananda was imbibed over the three (3) years of tutelage under Swami Virjanand with the notion that there are certain books which are to be considered authoritative and others to be considered “spurious” – this was a core idea communicated to the pupil Dayananda.

Period 1863 – 1874 – Divine Revelation VS Works of Rishis (Authoritative Books)

After Swami Dayananda left the tutelage of Swami Virjanand, it took another 7 years for Swami Dayananda to formalize his thoughts definitively on Vedic Revelation.

Radical Distinction

As Swamiji continued his research to short list books which were considered “authoritative”, he became more and more aware of the uniqueness of the Four Vedas and made a radical proposal. Swami Dayananda proposed that we needed to make the following distinction and understand the difference between "Divine Revelation" and "man-made composition":

·         Divine Vedic Revelation as contained in the Four Vedas

o   His premise is that the Vedas was not composed but “heard” thru Divine Revelation

·         Secondary works of Authority as ‘composed’ by Rishis - for example the Upanishads.

 This distinction began to position the Vedas as a Divine Source Authority versus other works as man-made (composed works) - secondary authority.

The Fifth Veda – The Concept of Ongoing Revelation Over Time – A Continuous Process

Over the centuries in India, new religious groups were introduced in Hinduism with new saints, religious leaders and ultimately their own/new religious texts – Puranas for example.  The idea was that such texts were also considered Divine Revelation in addition to the Vedas. As a consequence, the Vedas were seen as original revelation but incomplete and needed additional texts, to provide context and additional advice to Mankind, due to changing era and social norms.

Swami Dayananda debunked this notion – declaring that:

·         the Vedas contained, in germinal form, the totality of Truth

·         Its message is universal, definitive, final and true for all time and locations

At the time he made this presentation, India was befuddled with an array of “sacred” texts claiming equivalency in Divine/Scriptural Authority.

 The following is a summary of the logical basis for his conclusion

Any book claiming to be Divine Revelation MUST satisfy the following criteria

·         Propagate monotheism

o   This eliminates the Puranas for example

·         Knowledge acquired thru Divine Revelation must be “universal” in nature – must not be applicable circumstantially or to one group

o   Universality therefore means that Divine Wisdom must not refer to time and space

§  Time: History – events that occurred

§  Space: Location, Geography

·         This eliminates a whole array of texts (Hindu and others) including the Bible and the Koran which are immersed in history and geography

·         Knowledge acquired thru Divine Revelation must not offend reason/logic

o   Myths and miracles are classified by Swami Dayananda as illogical.

·         Knowledge acquired thru Divine Revelation must not offend Morality (Mankind's instinctive sense of Right and Wrong)

·         Knowledge acquired thru Divine Revelation would be given to Mankind at the dawn of human birth – not after centuries/millions of years  of Human Civilization

·         Knowledge acquired thru Divine Revelation would be given in TOTALITY – not in a manner that provided partial knowledge transfer to Mankind

·         Knowledge acquired thru Divine Revelation would be presented in a language that is the language of all Mankind

o   Sanskrit  is the source language of all Mankind – it is not a derivative of any other language - meaning no other language preceded Sanskrit. It is the original language of all Mankind.

I encourage the critical reader to assess the “sacred” texts of World Religions against the above criteria. Swami Dayananda proposed that ONLY the Vedas meet these logical criteria for Divine Revelation

 

Fighting the battle against Traditional/Institutionalized  Hindu Leaders - The Challenge of Communicating this Concept to the Hindu Mind

When Swami Dayananda made this declaration about the Vedas in approx 1874, it was like a bombshell in the midst of Hindu Intelligentsia.

Leaders of Traditional Hinduism at the time saw that Swami Dayananda’s Vedic Revelation removed the authority of many “sacred” texts, dissipating their generic claims to Vedic Authenticity and more importantly minimizing the interpretative authorities of the prevailing Brahmin Intelligentsia

By 1881, the concept of the Vedas as the ONLY source of Divine Revelation was beginning to take hold in Hindu minds.

History is clear on the Great Debate on Jan 22, 1881 where 300 Pandits and approximately 200 members of the audience engaged Swami Dayananda to disprove his declarations of Vedic Revelation. 

Summary:

Among the great contributions Rishi Dayananda has made to Hinduism, the Author is particularly grateful for the clarity that Rishi Dayananda has presented to the world concerning the Originality/Divine Revelation of the Vedas.

Today (125+ years later), it is common place for the Arya/Hindu to accept the notion of the declaration of Vedic Revelation as normal and not contentious.

It is imperative that Hindu Intelligentsia continue the uncompleted work of Swami Dayananda to make available, readable versions of the Vedas, freely available to the World Public

I encourage a discussion on this subject – please post a reply below.

Shruti Bhushan Prakash is a member of the Arya Samaj Community. He is the author of this Blog entry and his views do not necessarily represent the views of MDG NA Inc.

Reference Materials: The Author has used the following resources in writing this Blog entry

  •  Translation of the Satyaarth Prakash by Dr. Satish Prakash 
  • Dayananda Sarasvati - Essay on His Life and Ideas by J.T.F Jordens
Comments
 
Seeker Says :
April 27, 2010
Very nice! I like this clever analogy but I am not yet intellectually satisfied. I still confused; here is why:

a) If I understand this concept correctly I should be convinced that the Vedas has all the truths that are and will ever be known. However, that exhaustive body of knowledge, although rudimentary “is universal, definitive and final.” I see a contradiction embedded in this idea, and additionally, I fail to see the pedagogical value of that position since it is claimed that all such truths are “final". For instance, 0+0 = 0 and 1+1=2 are truths that are elementary and final. Matter is made up of indivisible atoms is elementary but not final; there are protons, neutrons electrons etc.

Swami Vivekananda asserts that the claim that any single text can exhaust all truths about Ultimate reality is a stretch of credulity (1). He further explicitly rejects the view that the Vedas are the only authentic revelation, or they alone contain all the truths of religion (3). The same idea is echoed by Dr Radhakrishnan (2). I can no more believe these thinkers than I can believe that the Vedas is the source book of ALL knowledge because Swami Dayananda said so or I should have faith that it is so – neither proposition is academically palatable to a contemporary reader.

b) It is obvious that since the Vedas is the fount of all true knowledge it should have been a text book for all scientists and thinkers guiding and driving them to modern discoveries. However, some scientists appeared to be blissfully unaware the “truths” in the Vedas. While it is true that ignorance does not nullify the contents of the Vedas it is nevertheless strange that it has no role in some of the greatest discoveries.

c) Regarding the authenticity and eternality of the Vedas the following problems arise: (4)

• The problem of language. Man is fallible and mortal; human productions are liable to the taint of mortality. Scriptures consist of words as well as human literary productions so how is its eternality established? The exalted reformer, Swami Dayananda, circumvents this issue by insisting that the Vedas has a non human quality, that it was “heard” by the Rishis, as cited in this presentation.

• The problem of genesis. If the scripture is received or perceived at a particular point in time, how is its eternality established? The idea of its uncreatedness and that it exists concomitantly with the universe strips it of the necessity for revelation.

I find both Vedantist’s and Arya Samajist’s perspectives enlightening but not EVERYTHING about either is final and definitive.

1. Swami Vivekananda. Complete Works Vol 8 p 124.
2.Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan. An Idealist View of Life. p 38
3.Swami Vivekananda. Complete Works Vol 1 p 329
4. Arvind Sharma. " Eternality of the Vedas and Quran: A Comparative Study" www.jstor.org/stable/1397859
Reply from: Admin
April 28, 2010
Excellent counter presentation. Thanks for your thoughful and positive remarks.

I leave responses for another reader to make. I am really pleased with the excellent level of discussion from these blog entires. We must never be afraid to "edit" our perspectives based on new discoveries - this was one of the things Swami Dayananda insisted on. So i hope that thru continuing dialogue, we can seek to expand/clarify/edit our understanding of our Doctrines.
Namaste
Shruti Prakash
Response to seeker Says :
April 18, 2010
The concept you are not grasping is this: Range and Depth.
Consider the popular saying "jack of all trades (range)" and "master of none (depth).

Range = how wide, depth = how deep.

Similarly, totality of truth = range ( widest coverage) and germinal = depth (sufficient to provide Man guidance for further exploration, apply and live a productive life)

Seeker Says :
March 12, 2010
“The Vedas contained, in germinal form, the totality of Truth.
Its message is universal, definitive, final and true for all time and locations.”

Please elaborate of why you qualify the “totality of truth” to be “germinal.”

If the message is, "universal, definitive, final and true for all time and locations", why is it germinal? If the truth contained in the Vedas is final and definitive, why is it not more expositive?

Truth cannot be developmentally grade; it cannot be embryonic (germinal) and then mature if it is "final" and "universal."

Amrita Says :
December 27, 2009
Powerful topic of discussion - many of us, myself included, are busy studying philosophies and theories from the western sciences, as a necessity to survive, that we do not spend enough time to celebrate the divine sciences, but do recognise that Swamiji has given us the pathways to that enlightment.

Every workshop I attend with Dr. Satishji, every pravachan I listen to, leaves me in awe of the wonders of the knowledge in the Vedas, relevant to every aspect of my life. I am amazed at how there are teachings for me to follow today, in both my professional life and my personal life. How could Swamiji have know of that so many years ago, that it transcends time?

How could a Swami who led such a simple life have the depth of knowledge to understand the intricacies of each word in the Vedas, and be able to make it simple enough for us to follow?

What other English language way of describing the divinity of the teachings of the Vedas and Swamiji than divine itself?

Bhai Shruti, thanks for the great summary (esp. the points of no geographical references) on the Vedas!

These blogs are a wonderful tool of education - please keep doing it! Namaste
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